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***Haunter***** · Jul 2nd, 2010, 6:41:51 AM

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Emi · Jul 2nd, 2010, 7:35:02 AM

Are little cup pokemon EV trained? And if so, how do they do it?

shrang · Jul 2nd, 2010, 9:41:43 AM

I have a few simple questions:

1) Regarding Medicham, if it uses Power Trick, does he swap the Attack stat before or after Pure Power?? So, will it get 480 Defense (Assuming +ve nature), or would it get 240 Defense and Pure Power still double the Power Tricked Attack stat??

2) What's an IV spread for getting Hidden Power Ice onto Hasty Raikou and lowering SpA, Spe and Atk to a minimum??

ForTheSwarm · Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:02:22 AM

Let's say I have a Dugtrio, and it has arena trapped a Shuckle. If I switched out, can the Shuckle switch out the same turn? What if I have arena trapped a pokemon faster than dugtrio?

***Haunter***** · Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:19:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat ForTheSwarm

Let's say I have a Dugtrio, and it has arena trapped a Shuckle. If I switched out, can the Shuckle switch out the same turn?

no.

Quote:

What if I have arena trapped a pokemon faster than dugtrio?

speed is irrelevant.

coolking49 · Jul 2nd, 2010, 10:39:56 AM

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2) What's an IV spread for getting Hidden Power Ice onto Hasty Raikou and lowering SpA, Spe and Atk to a minimum??

minimum? Thats tough to find. try 31/18/30/15/31/3, though there might be something lower

TheMaskedNitpicker · Jul 2nd, 2010, 12:02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat ForTheSwarm

Let's say I have a Dugtrio, and it has arena trapped a Shuckle. If I switched out, can the Shuckle switch out the same turn? What if I have arena trapped a pokemon faster than dugtrio?

Arena Trap doesn't keep Pokémon from switching out. It keeps you from telling your Pokémon to switch out when you input commands for the turn. So, your Pokémon can switch out on the same turn that an Arena Trap Pokémon switches in, but not on the same turn that an Arena Trap Pokémon switches out, regardless of Speed.

It also means that Baton Pass, U-turn, Roar, and Whirlwind will all make you switch out, even if an opponent has Arena Trap.

Ford · Jul 2nd, 2010, 1:28:41 PM

IIRC, more exceptions include Shed Shell, Mold Breaker, and Gastro Acid?

-FUCK- · Jul 2nd, 2010, 1:35:19 PM

Does a pokemon with levitate or is part flying get effected by Arena Trap?
Just wanted to say that I made it in the first page, and nice eye you got thar

Naxte · Jul 2nd, 2010, 1:38:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat -FUCK-

Does a pokemon with levitate or is part flying get effected by Arena Trap?

No, they'll be able to switch out just fine.

Angel Diva · Jul 2nd, 2010, 2:22:34 PM

I currently am playing a team supporting OTR Bronzong.

Team is: Leadtran/OTRZong/CBTar/SpecsKingdra/bulkyGyara/Blissey

Is it advisable to change CBTar's nature to Brave with no speed EVs?
What about Kingdra? Is it advisable to change to Quiet?

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Jul 2nd, 2010, 2:55:15 PM

A. Can anyone tell me if Hidden Power Ground or Ice is viable enough on lead Roserade to bother breeding one? Are either a situational gimmick?

B. Does Mirror Coat Milotic want a Bold nature and max Defense + HP or a Calm Nature with max special defense + HP?

Xing · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:22:01 PM

What's this "EV restriction" I've heard so much about Arceus having?

Tyranitar · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:25:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Xing

What's this "EV restriction" I've heard so much about Arceus having?

Arceus is only gotten at Lvl 100, therefore you can't Ev train it.

cosmicexplorer · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:36:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Xing

What's this "EV restriction" I've heard so much about Arceus having?

Due to the limits of the code of Shoddy Battle, and Arceus' base 120 stats, only 100 EVs can be given to Arceus in a single stat. There is still a normal 510 EV cap, but it's 100 for each stat instead of 252 for Arceus.

connoisseur · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:41:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

A. Can anyone tell me if Hidden Power Ground or Ice is viable enough on lead Roserade to bother breeding one? Are either a situational gimmick?

B. Does Mirror Coat Milotic want a Bold nature and max Defense + HP or a Calm Nature with max special defense + HP?

Dunno about ice in the lead slot, i don't believe you can possibly predict a salamence switch in anyway (not that youd do anything but sleep powder first anyway). But ground could be as it hits heatran (mainly), metagross (don't know if it is anywhere near a 2HKO) and infernape(it'll destroy you first) for SE damage.

I'd just go Bold, more damage taken on the special side = more mirror coat damage.

callforjudgement · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:47:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat shrang

2) What's an IV spread for getting Hidden Power Ice onto Hasty Raikou and lowering SpA, Spe and Atk to a minimum??

No idea why you're trying to do that (Hasty with min Spe?), but for a Hasty Method 1 like Raikou from HGSS, 31/1/31/1/31/0 is legal. If you want HP Ice 70, try 27/2/30/3/31/3. (The spreads come from this tool, which is useful for finding unusual legal Hidden Power spreads, among other things.)

cosmicexplorer · Jul 2nd, 2010, 3:55:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Cipher Admin Lovrina

A. Can anyone tell me if Hidden Power Ground or Ice is viable enough on lead Roserade to bother breeding one? Are either a situational gimmick?

B. Does Mirror Coat Milotic want a Bold nature and max Defense + HP or a Calm Nature with max special defense + HP?

In the analysis for Roserade, it says that HP Ground is to hit Steel types that resist your other attacks, while HP Ice is to hit Salamence. I don't know how difficult it is to breed one, but late-game, you'll probably want to be able to hit a lot of things super-effectively, and Roserade with a Choice Scarf/Choice Specs can be an effective revenge killer, but only if you give it the right coverage. I would recommend using it, but if it's too difficult to breed the right IVs, then I would suggest not doing it and trying something else. But HP Ice seems to be situational; only for Salamence, so if you don't need that, then HP Ground is probably what you should go for.

As previously stated by connoisseur, just go Bold, more damage taken means more damage given.

Captain Awesome · Jul 2nd, 2010, 4:13:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat callforjudgement

No idea why you're trying to do that (Hasty with min Spe?), but for a Hasty Method 1 like Raikou from HGSS, 31/1/31/1/31/0 is legal. If you want HP Ice 70, try 27/2/30/3/31/3. (The spreads come from this tool, which is useful for finding unusual legal Hidden Power spreads, among other things.)

I think he means "minimally lowering these IVs", i.e: "with these IVs and high as possible".

neji49 · Jul 2nd, 2010, 5:27:34 PM

Why isn't linoone usable in OU? It seems like charizard except slightly weaker with priority and easier setup.

connoisseur · Jul 2nd, 2010, 5:40:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat neji49

Why isn't linoone usable in OU? It seems like charizard except slightly weaker with priority and easier setup.

scizor OHKOes it with bullet punch
and it cant really set up on much and when it somehow does, the everpresent physical wall/bulky pokemon (skarmory should destroy it every time) on the team can take a blow and KO linoone. I think 95% of OU can KO a 50% linoone anyway.

Linoone can't even go mixed and the moment you are using linoone, the opponent knows your set while Charizard could fake a bellyzard and actually be a specszard.

cowboyforce · Jul 2nd, 2010, 5:52:27 PM

can a special specs fearow OHKO standard ledian with hidden power steel and if not is there any alternative that i can use to check standard ledian?

Cipher Admin Lovrina · Jul 2nd, 2010, 6:09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat connoisseur

Dunno about ice in the lead slot, i don't believe you can possibly predict a salamence switch in anyway (not that youd do anything but sleep powder first anyway). But ground could be as it hits heatran (mainly), metagross (don't know if it is anywhere near a 2HKO) and infernape(it'll destroy you first) for SE damage.

I'd just go Bold, more damage taken on the special side = more mirror coat damage.

I mean, I have read the analysis, but what I'm curious about...
Which one gets better coverage on today's most common leads: Ground or Fire? I'm assuming I could just sleep powder Heatran, but would it be worthwile to outright kill it?

jc104 · Jul 2nd, 2010, 6:10:06 PM

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A. Can anyone tell me if Hidden Power Ground or Ice is viable enough on lead Roserade to bother breeding one? Are either a situational gimmick?

I feel this was answered badly. Personally, I prefer both of these to HP Fire, the standard on a lead Roserade, as it allows you to have a maximum speed IV, which lets you put to sleep other Roserade in the lead position. HP ice is the best option. Being able to kill lead Dragonite and Gliscor is nice, as well as hitting stuff like Mence that might try to set up on you. Note that you can also 2HKO Aero without dropping your special attack. HP Ground is less useful and more situational, and should only really be considered for Heatran, who a) can be put to sleep in the lead position b) often carries shuca berry and c) OHKOes you easily (barring sash). It might even survive without a -spdef nature. As for other steels, most of them do not care much for Roserade's HP ground(e.g Skarm, Metagross, Bronzong, Scizor, Forretress) so I would consider it a much lesser option.

mgbguy · Jul 2nd, 2010, 6:10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat cowboyforce

can a special specs fearow OHKO standard ledian with hidden power steel and if not is there any alternative that i can use to check standard ledian?

Drill Peck and a Rash/Mild nature, or Hidden Power Rock are as close as you're gonna get.

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