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League of Legends: Let's Talk About uhhh??
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Heh, I think I've died to jungle creeps at least 5 times in the games I've played with Thorns.
All of those times with Yi btw.
Depends on elo. The pick order is highest elo to lowest (there might be a very slight variation in this, I once had someone on the other team queue dodge and got the exact same team of players with 2nd/3rd switched). As a result, high elo typically gets important roles like jungler and solos because they're typically harder to play and more important.
Fourth/fifth pick usually gets support because support is stupid easy to play (seriously, I have like an 85% win rate with Taric in ranked). You don't need to farm and as a result don't need to know item builds, you just cv where people (usually the jungler) tell you, buy gp5 items/wards/oracle's, then stack aura items.
Bans/picks are set up so that second ban is first pick, and first ban is second pick. As a result, you can set up scenarios where you are first pick and are guaranteed someone really good (For me, this is usually Enemy bans Lee Sin, I ban Talon/Akali, they ban Morg, I take Kass).
The current meta is tanky DPS/some assassins top, AP mid, ranged AD/support bot, and a powerful ganker in the jungle.
Good examples of each are Singed, Jax, Garen, Talon, Rumble, and Akali top; Kassadin, Brand, Annie, and Morgana mid; Cait, Ezreal, and Kog as AD and Sona, Janna, and Taric as supports. Good Junglers include Noc, Lee, and GP.
At low elo you can ignore the meta because most people there are idiots (hell, most people at 1700 are idiots). Once you get to like, gold and above, breaking team comp because "OMG WE NEED A TANK" as fifth pick and then fighting the AD for farm bot will likely be a loss unless your top/mid/jungle are insane. You can also try to counter the meta (for example, Talon and most AD eat Kass alive mid).
For example, in low elo you can probably get away with no jungler because a 1200 jungler is probably just gonna let their 1v2 lane get eaten alive. But in high elo that jungler is gonna be on the 1v2's ass all day getting double kills, having permadouble buff, and nabbing easy dragons. Plus the jungler's mid/bot should win easily because no fear of ganks.
Speaking of dragons, people underappreciate dragon/towers/baron. If a jungler gets a successful gank on mid or bot, his team should try to push a tower or get dragon. It's like 1000 gold to the entire team, which is a *lot*. If you ace the enemy team, don't go b to heal. Take a tower, take their jungle, take something to snowball that advantage.
Also, it's never worth it to queue dodge, even if you think your team is gonna surrender at 20. You can't requeue for 5/15 minutes anyway, and you lose a lot more elo than you would for just losing (20 vs. like 13). If the game drags on fsr, that gives you a chance to farm up and take advantage of the other team getting cocky (this happens a lot).
Also, people cry about FotM for a reason. They may not necessarily be op, but they tend to pick on bad/careless players hard and thus snowball off of idiots, or require a more coordinated effort.
They shouldn't, and lol at 7 heals, especially on fucking Vladimir. I really don't get how people can be that dumb to take heal on vlad
I've started playing jungle Sion recently and have had a lot of fun with him. I've gone about 5-1 with him and have yet to have a negate kdr. He has some nice sustainability and his ganks are solid with his stun and red buff. He also gets an easy dragon at level 6.
About the whole, "fill every role thing". Just play what you are good at. I've lost too many games because someone wanted to fill a role and picked a champ they suck with, fed and lost us the game.
About the whole, "fill every role thing". Just play what you are good at. I've lost too many games because someone wanted to fill a role and picked a champ they suck with, fed and lost us the game.
O.o you have one weird spell rotation on Annie.
He just meant pressing 4 buttons in a really short duration wasn't difficult lol. He obviously wasn't reffering to annie's actual combo :P
i mean if you're really going to be nitpicky the combo is technically F R Q W D, autoattack, chase, autoattack, Q, autoattack
also @cordyceps, learn one type of champion and master that type first. i recommend an AP carry since they're good at low ELOs and you can easily stomp games if you know what you're doing. annie is a prime example of a basic champion. she enforces last hitting, a fundamental skill needed in good gameplay, as well as having a powerful combo on top of only being 450 IP.
learn to smartcast now. get used to it. it WILL improve your gameplay. if you don't know how to then google it, but trust me, if you learn to smartcast from day one, you will thank me later. right now i smartcast everything except important skill shots like ashe ult, amumu bandage, etc.
to really improve as a player, watch videos and streams in the meanwhile. i highly recommend icsullla's channel on youtube. he has well over 100 videos detailing his gameplay rise from early levels to level 30, and he has a very good grasp of the game - while he only has around 500 normal wins, he has around a 2:1 win ratio which is extremely high and is a sign of an intuitively good gamer.
as you get better and learn the finer aspects of the game, start watching solomid streams as well as CLG/TSM/other top team livestreams. youtube user generalwiser has THOUSANDS of gameplay videos of nearly every champion in the game, all played by high ELO players.
other than that quick guidelines to follow are:
-don't buy runes until level 20
-don't blow your IP/RP on champions the day they come out. don't impulse buy champions in general, wait until free week.
-watch the minimap. all the time. call MIAs (missing in action, tells people when your lane goes missing). react to MIAs.
-don't be rude to your teammates. don't get angry at teammates or enemies who yell at you. always keep a cool head.
-don't stress team composition too hard early on. playing someone you're good at and more importantly, confident at, is much better.
also @cordyceps, learn one type of champion and master that type first. i recommend an AP carry since they're good at low ELOs and you can easily stomp games if you know what you're doing. annie is a prime example of a basic champion. she enforces last hitting, a fundamental skill needed in good gameplay, as well as having a powerful combo on top of only being 450 IP.
learn to smartcast now. get used to it. it WILL improve your gameplay. if you don't know how to then google it, but trust me, if you learn to smartcast from day one, you will thank me later. right now i smartcast everything except important skill shots like ashe ult, amumu bandage, etc.
to really improve as a player, watch videos and streams in the meanwhile. i highly recommend icsullla's channel on youtube. he has well over 100 videos detailing his gameplay rise from early levels to level 30, and he has a very good grasp of the game - while he only has around 500 normal wins, he has around a 2:1 win ratio which is extremely high and is a sign of an intuitively good gamer.
as you get better and learn the finer aspects of the game, start watching solomid streams as well as CLG/TSM/other top team livestreams. youtube user generalwiser has THOUSANDS of gameplay videos of nearly every champion in the game, all played by high ELO players.
other than that quick guidelines to follow are:
-don't buy runes until level 20
-don't blow your IP/RP on champions the day they come out. don't impulse buy champions in general, wait until free week.
-watch the minimap. all the time. call MIAs (missing in action, tells people when your lane goes missing). react to MIAs.
-don't be rude to your teammates. don't get angry at teammates or enemies who yell at you. always keep a cool head.
-don't stress team composition too hard early on. playing someone you're good at and more importantly, confident at, is much better.
Fuck dat, I map Flash to F
so do i what's your point
tips on annoying people as teemo:
- lane with someone with hard CC (stun or fear preferably)
- put down about 500 shrooms in the brush
- non-stop farm (first time i went back i had 4.7k thanks to kills and farming, they surrendered at 20:30)
- pray your teammates aren't retarded (since teemo tends to attract those sorts)
- use the rain man's teemo guide, not phreak's spotlight
I just replaced regular casting with smart casting.
Ok, so I bought Karma today. Supported a Ryze who was... apparently afraid of getting kills since I had to kill enemy champions with Heavenly Wave in the laning phase (I was 6/0/1 or something because Ryze snared, threw Overload, and then ran back to the turret). Still trying to get the hang of CVing and knowing what to do when. Got killed by a GP ult because I healed then tried to shield instead of the other way around.
Thanks Jebus, I'll be sure to look that stuff up soon.
For now, I just use Morgana and Fiddlesticks. Fiddle is so powerful, jeez. I don't always do it right (sometimes I have to spend gold on other things), but pumping up ap and doing some sneaky ass Crowstorms is wonderful.
Moved on to real matches, since apparently "bots are terrible bro." I think my best match with Fiddle was like 18/10/10. Yay.
For now, I just use Morgana and Fiddlesticks. Fiddle is so powerful, jeez. I don't always do it right (sometimes I have to spend gold on other things), but pumping up ap and doing some sneaky ass Crowstorms is wonderful.
Moved on to real matches, since apparently "bots are terrible bro." I think my best match with Fiddle was like 18/10/10. Yay.
ray cv is useful when opponent has jungler.. else really only useful for dragon/baron but if the other team isnt smart enough to have a jungler then i dont think they would use dragon. as someone who is a beginner jungler who fiddles with support/ap soraka when bored, you learn to cv their jungle buffs all the time to see where they are in jungle and if your jungler can steal the buff (or any camps i guess)(or gank the jungler early game)
Yeah, I don't really know what jungler routes are so I guess blue/red and then flail around.
yea thats why i said "as a beginner jungler" you kinda get to know where they are. if you can pay attention to the minimap icons, lets say you cv'd blue before and it was gone, it SHOULD have a skull there in 5 minutes
Most junglers start at blue, or do a small clear then blue, and after that just get it whenever it is up. if you really want to do homework, watch some common/fotm jungler champ videos to see some routes
Most junglers start at blue, or do a small clear then blue, and after that just get it whenever it is up. if you really want to do homework, watch some common/fotm jungler champ videos to see some routes
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oh boy, guys first ranked game ever and guess what? I got a feeder/leaver
who used ghost and heal
on a katarina
and you know what the really sad part is?
not the fact she couldn't last hit: only obtaining 16 creep kills by level 6 mark
not the fact she gave first blood by falling for the oldest trick in the book: level 1 ganked at our closest brush because our lane wasn't fast enough
it was the fact she deceived us right before we began playing the match
she was about to jungle fiddle then last second swapped to katarina with heal+ghost.
I don't even
I
oh boy, guys first ranked game ever and guess what? I got a feeder/leaver
who used ghost and heal
on a katarina
and you know what the really sad part is?
not the fact she couldn't last hit: only obtaining 16 creep kills by level 6 mark
not the fact she gave first blood by falling for the oldest trick in the book: level 1 ganked at our closest brush because our lane wasn't fast enough
it was the fact she deceived us right before we began playing the match
she was about to jungle fiddle then last second swapped to katarina with heal+ghost.
I don't even
I