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Have you ever looked at some sets on a Pokemon and wondered "Wow. How is this set A+ worthy?", or "Is this set really that much better than the other sets?"? Have you ever just wondered where your favorite sets truly stand in terms of viability? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then let me introduce you to OU Viability Ranking: Sets!
In this thread, we as a community will decide the viability of each individual set for every Pokemon that's viable in OU. There are a few rules here that will explain how things will work around here:
1. If a Pokemon is in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list, regardless of how bad it is, then that Pokemon is going to be on this list as well, even if it's in D Rank.
2. Do not make nominations here for Pokemon that are not on the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list. Make those nominations there, as they will be ignored here, so no nominating Beartic for D Rank or anything like that.
3. A Pokemon's set cannot be ranked higher than its rank in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list, so Sand Rush Excadrill can't be S Rank here because it's only A Rank there. If a Pokemon's ranking is moved down in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list in a way that would make it lower than one of its set placements here, then its placement here is also lowered. No exceptions.
4. Post maturely and intelligently, as well as with good evidence and support for any nominations you make. I don't want to see any one-liners like "Why is *insert a Pokemon set* A Rank? It sucks, so bring it down!".
5. For the love of god, don't forget rule #4.
ORAS OU Ranking Sets Tier List
(In alphabetical order)
S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are amazing in the OU metagame. These Pokemon are usually able to perform a variety of roles effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits.
Keldeo (Substitute + Calm Mind: S)
(Choice Specs: A+)
(Choice Scarf: A)
(Life Orb: A)
Metagross (Mega) (Pending)
Sableye (Mega) (Pending)
A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the OU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits.
A+ Rank
Altaria (Mega) (Defensive Dragon Dance: A-)
(Offensive Dragon Dance: A+)
(Support: A+)
(Special Attacker: A+)
Azumarill (Assault Vest: A-)
(Choice Band: A+)
(Belly Drum: A+)
Bisharp (Defiant Attacker: A+)
(Assault Vest: A)
Charizard (Mega X)
Clefable (Magic Guard + Calm Mind: A+)
(Unaware +Calm Mind: A+)
(Stealth Rock: A)
(Unaware Cleric + Wishpasser: A-)
Diancie (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: A+)
Gengar (Substitute + 3 Attacks: A)
(Utility Attacker: A)
(Life Orb: A+)
Gliscor (Specially Defensive: A-)
(Substitute + Toxic: B)
Gyarados (Mega) (Mega Dragon Dance: A+)
Heatran (Offensive Air Balloon: A+)
(Choice Scarf: A)
(Specially Defensive: A+)
(Fast Support: A+)
Landorus (Special Attacker: A+)
(Calm Mind: A+)
(Rock Polish: A+)
Landorus-T (Choice Scarf: A+)
(Offensive Pivot: A)
(Double Dance: A-)
Latios
Lopunny (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: A+)
(Utility Attacker: A+)
Slowbro (Mega) (Double Dance: A)
(CroBro: B+)
(Defensive: A-)
Talonflame (Stall Breaker: A)
(Swords Dance: A+)
(Revenge Killer: A)
(Swords Dance + Natural Gift: B)
Thundurus (Mixed Attacker: A)
(Nasty Plot: A)
(Prankster Attacker: A+)
A Rank
Celebi (Defensive: A)
(Offensive: B+)
Charizard (Mega-Y) (Wall Breaker: A)
Excadrill (Sand Rush: A)
Ferrothorn (Utility: A)
Gallade (Mega) (Wallbreaker: A)
Gardevoir (Mega) (Offensive: A)
Garchomp (Lead: A)
(Choice Scarf: B)
(Swords Dance: A-)
Latias (Offensive Defog: A)
Manaphy (Tail Glow + Rain Dance: A)
(Tail Glow: B+)
(Calm Mind: A-)
Manectric (Mega) (Special Attacker: A)
Pinsir (Mega) (Swords Dance: A)
Rotom-W (Defensive: A)
Scizor (Mega) (Bulky Swords Dance: A)
(Swords Dance + 3 Attacks: A)
Slowbro (Physical Wall: A)
Tyranitar (Choice Scarf: A)
(Support: A-)
Venusaur (Mega) (Offensive Tank: A)
(Defensive: A-)
A- Rank
Aerodactyl (Mega) (Physical Attacker: A-)
Diggersby (Swords Dance: A-)
(All-Out Attacker: A-)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
Gyarados (Bulky Dragon Dance: A-)
(Specially Defensive: B)
Heracross (Mega) (Wall Breaker: A-)
(Swords Dance + Substitute: A-)
Hippowdon (Wall: A-)
Jirachi (Specially Defensive: A-)
(SubToxic: A-)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
Magnezone (Choice Scarf: A-)
(Choice Specs: B+)
Mamoswine (Focus Sash: A-)
(Life Orb: A-)
Politoed (Rain Support: A-)
Starmie (Defensive: B+)
(Offensive: A-)
Tornadus-T (Pivot: A-)
B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the OU metagame. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential.
B+ Rank
Alakazam (Mega) (Special Attacker: B+)
Amoonguss (Pivot: B+)
Breloom (Focus Sash/Life Orb: B+)
(Leech Seed: D)
(Specially Defensive Poison Heal: B)
Chansey (Support: B+)
(Wish Support: B+)
Chesnaught (Physically Defensive: B+)
(Belly Drum: B-)
Dragonite (Choice Band: B+)
(Dragon Dance: B-)
(Bulky Roost: B)
Hawlucha (Swords Dance: B+)
Kabutops (Physical Attacker: B+)
Kingdra (Mixed Rain Sweeper: B)
Klefki (Support: B+)
Kyurem-B (Life Orb: B+)
(Substitute + 3 Attacks: B+)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
Latias (Mega) (Calm Mind: B+)
Mew (Stall Breaker: B+)
(Hazard Control: B)
(Offensive: B-)
Raikou (Assault Vest: B+)
(Choice Specs: B+)
(Calm Mind: B)
Sceptile (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: B+)
(Substitute: B+)
Skarmory (Physically Defensive: B+)
(Specially Defensive: C)
Swampert (Mega) (Swift Swim: B+)
Tentacruel (Defensive: B+)
Terrakion (All-Out Attacker: B+)
(Lead: B+)
(Choice Band: B+)
(Choice Scarf: B)
B Rank
Conkeldurr (Assault Vest: B)
Cresselia (Defensive: B)
Gothitelle (Trapper: B)
Houndoom (Mega) (Nasty Plot: B)
Mandibuzz (Utility: B)
Omastar (Choice Specs: B)
(Life Orb: C+)
Quagsire (Unaware: B)
Scizor (Choice Band: B)
Suicune (CroCune: B)
Sharpedo (Mega) (Cleaner: B)
Togekiss (Nasty Plot: B)
(Defensive: B)
Victini (Stall Breaker: B)
(Wall Breaker: B)
(Trick Room: C+)
Volcarona (Offensive Quiver Dance: B)
(Bulky Quiver Dance: C)
Weavile (Revenge Killer: B)
B- Rank
Alomomola (Wish Pass: B-)
Azelf (Dual Screens: B-)
Crawdaunt (Wall Breaker: B-)
Dragalge (Wallbreaker: B-)
Empoleon (Utility: B-)
(Choice Specs: C+)
Garchomp (Mega) (Mixed: B-)
Hydreigon (Wall Breaker: B-)
(Revenge Killer: C+)
Lucario (Swords Dance: B-)
Magneton (Choice Scarf: B-)
Rhyperior (Defensive: B-)
Scolipede (Quick Pass: B-)
(Offensive: C+)
Serperior (Pending)
Sylveon (Choice Specs: B-)
(Cleric: B-)
Tangrowth (Assault Vest: B-)
Toxicroak (Attacker: B-)
Tyranitar (Mega) (Dragon Dance: B-)
Zapdos (Defensive: B-)
C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that have notable niches in the OU metagame, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon.
C+ Rank
Bronzong (Dual Screens: C+)
Cobalion (Volt Switch: C+)
Gastrodon (Physically Defensive: C+)
Medicham (Mega) (Physical Attacker: C+)
Pidgeot (Mega) (Pending)
Staraptor (Choice Band: C+)
(Choice Scarf: C+)
Wobbuffet (Trapper: C+)
C Rank
Absol (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: C)
Aggron (Mega) (Tank: C)
Alakazam (Revenge Killer: C)
Blastoise (Mega) (Rapid Spin: C)
Camerupt (Mega) (Pending)
Ditto (Choice Scarf: C)
Doublade (Mixed Wall: C)
Entei (All-Out Attacker: C)
Glalie (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: C)
Goodra (Assault Vest: C)
Gourgeist-XL (Physically Defensive: C)
Heracross (Pending)
Infernape (Focus Sash Lead: C)
Latios (Mega) (Pending)
Mienshao (Life Orb: C)
Porygon2 (Physically Defensive: C)
Reuniclus (Trick Room: C)
Rotom-H (Choice Scarf: C)
Sableye (Prankster Utility: C)
Seismitoad (Rain Sweeper: C)
Shuckle (Sticky Web: C)
Slowking (Assault Vest: C)
Thundurus-T (Agility: C)
C- Rank
Ampharos (Agility: C-)
(All-Out Attacker: C-)
(Specially Defensive: C-)
Blissey (Cleric: C-)
(Wish Passer: C-)
Cofagrigus (Trick Room: C-)
Diancie (Tank: C-)
Dugtrio (Revenge Killer: C-)
Espeon (Dual Screens: C-)
Exploud (Choice Specs: C-)
Gourgeist-Small (Physically Defensive: C-)
Haxorus (Wall Breaker: C-)
Lantern (Defensive: C-)
Ludicolo (Rain Sweeper: C-)
Noivern (Life Orb: C-)
Pangoro (Pending)
Smeargle (Quick Pass: C-)
Tornadus (Prankster: C-)
Whimsicott (Prankster: C-)
Zygarde (Coil: C-)
D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are mediocre in the OU metagame, but are viable enough to justify their use on select teams. These Pokemon are either usable but have no real niche, or are only capable of doing their specific task and fail at doing anything more than that. Pokemon from this rank have multiple crippling flaws that prevent them from being successful a majority of the time, and are often severely outclassed because of it.
Arcanine (Defensive: D)
Cacturne (Focus Sash: D)
Chandelure (Stall Breaker: D)
Cloyster (Shell Smash: D)
Flygon (Pending)
Froslass (Suicide Spiker: D)
Gorebyss (Quick Pass: D)
Meloetta (Assault Vest: D)
Salamence (MoxieMence: D)
Venomoth (Quiver Dance + Baton Pass: D)
Have fun!
Have you ever looked at some sets on a Pokemon and wondered "Wow. How is this set A+ worthy?", or "Is this set really that much better than the other sets?"? Have you ever just wondered where your favorite sets truly stand in terms of viability? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then let me introduce you to OU Viability Ranking: Sets!
In this thread, we as a community will decide the viability of each individual set for every Pokemon that's viable in OU. There are a few rules here that will explain how things will work around here:
1. If a Pokemon is in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list, regardless of how bad it is, then that Pokemon is going to be on this list as well, even if it's in D Rank.
2. Do not make nominations here for Pokemon that are not on the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list. Make those nominations there, as they will be ignored here, so no nominating Beartic for D Rank or anything like that.
3. A Pokemon's set cannot be ranked higher than its rank in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list, so Sand Rush Excadrill can't be S Rank here because it's only A Rank there. If a Pokemon's ranking is moved down in the ORAS OU Viability Ranking list in a way that would make it lower than one of its set placements here, then its placement here is also lowered. No exceptions.
4. Post maturely and intelligently, as well as with good evidence and support for any nominations you make. I don't want to see any one-liners like "Why is *insert a Pokemon set* A Rank? It sucks, so bring it down!".
5. For the love of god, don't forget rule #4.
ORAS OU Ranking Sets Tier List
(In alphabetical order)
S Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are amazing in the OU metagame. These Pokemon are usually able to perform a variety of roles effectively, or can just do one extremely well. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits.
(Choice Specs: A+)
(Choice Scarf: A)
(Life Orb: A)
Metagross (Mega) (Pending)
Sableye (Mega) (Pending)
A Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the OU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits.
A+ Rank
(Offensive Dragon Dance: A+)
(Support: A+)
(Special Attacker: A+)
(Choice Band: A+)
(Belly Drum: A+)
(Assault Vest: A)
(Bulky Will-O-Wisp: A-)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 148 SpD / 112 Spe
Careful Nature
- Earthquake / Fire Punch
- Dragon Claw
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost
(Bulky Dragon Dance: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake / Fire Punch
- Roost
(Dragon Dance: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 104 HP / 220 Atk / 184 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Punch / Flare Blitz
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake / Roost
(Swords Dance + Tailwind: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Tailwind
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 248 HP / 148 SpD / 112 Spe
Careful Nature
- Earthquake / Fire Punch
- Dragon Claw
- Will-O-Wisp
- Roost
(Bulky Dragon Dance: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 144 HP / 252 Atk / 112 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake / Fire Punch
- Roost
(Dragon Dance: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 104 HP / 220 Atk / 184 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Punch / Flare Blitz
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake / Roost
(Swords Dance + Tailwind: A)
Charizard @ Charizardite X
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Tailwind
- Dragon Claw / Outrage
- Earthquake
(Unaware +Calm Mind: A+)
(Stealth Rock: A)
(Unaware Cleric + Wishpasser: A-)
(Utility Attacker: A)
(Life Orb: A+)
(Substitute + Toxic: B)
(Choice Scarf: A)
(Specially Defensive: A+)
(Fast Support: A+)
(Calm Mind: A+)
(Rock Polish: A+)
Landorus-T (Choice Scarf: A+)
(Offensive Pivot: A)
(Double Dance: A-)
(Life Orb: A+)
Latios @ Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Surf / Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Fire
- Defog / Roost
(Choice Scarf: A)
Latios @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Trick
- Hidden Power Fire / Surf
(Dual Screen: B)
Latios @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Memento
- Draco Meteor / Hidden Power Fighting / Psychic
Latios @ Life Orb
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Surf / Thunderbolt / Hidden Power Fire
- Defog / Roost
(Choice Scarf: A)
Latios @ Choice Scarf
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Psyshock
- Trick
- Hidden Power Fire / Surf
(Dual Screen: B)
Latios @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Reflect
- Light Screen
- Memento
- Draco Meteor / Hidden Power Fighting / Psychic
(Utility Attacker: A+)
(CroBro: B+)
(Defensive: A-)
(Swords Dance: A+)
(Revenge Killer: A)
(Swords Dance + Natural Gift: B)
(Nasty Plot: A)
(Prankster Attacker: A+)
A Rank
(Offensive: B+)
(Choice Scarf: B)
(Swords Dance: A-)
(Tail Glow: B+)
(Calm Mind: A-)
(Swords Dance + 3 Attacks: A)
(Support: A-)
(Defensive: A-)
A- Rank
Diggersby (Swords Dance: A-)
(All-Out Attacker: A-)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
(Specially Defensive: B)
Heracross (Mega) (Wall Breaker: A-)
(Swords Dance + Substitute: A-)
(SubToxic: A-)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
(Choice Specs: B+)
(Life Orb: A-)
(Offensive: A-)
B Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the OU metagame. These Pokemon have more notable flaws than those above them that affect how they function in the tier. Their positive traits still outshine their negatives, but they require a bit more team support to bring out their full potential.
B+ Rank
Breloom (Focus Sash/Life Orb: B+)
(Leech Seed: D)
(Specially Defensive Poison Heal: B)
Chansey (Support: B+)
(Wish Support: B+)
Chesnaught (Physically Defensive: B+)
(Belly Drum: B-)
(Dragon Dance: B-)
(Bulky Roost: B)
(Substitute + 3 Attacks: B+)
(Choice Scarf: B+)
(Hazard Control: B)
(Offensive: B-)
(Choice Specs: B+)
(Calm Mind: B)
(Substitute: B+)
(Specially Defensive: C)
Swampert (Mega) (Swift Swim: B+)
(Lead: B+)
(Choice Band: B+)
(Choice Scarf: B)
B Rank
(Life Orb: C+)
(Defensive: B)
(Wall Breaker: B)
(Trick Room: C+)
(Bulky Quiver Dance: C)
B- Rank
(Choice Specs: C+)
(Revenge Killer: C+)
(Offensive: C+)
(Cleric: B-)
C Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that have notable niches in the OU metagame, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. Pokemon from this rank tend to face a lot of competition with the more commonly used Pokemon.
C+ Rank
(Choice Scarf: C+)
C Rank
Glalie (Mega) (All-Out Attacker: C)
C- Rank
(All-Out Attacker: C-)
(Specially Defensive: C-)
(Wish Passer: C-)
D Rank: Reserved for Pokemon that are mediocre in the OU metagame, but are viable enough to justify their use on select teams. These Pokemon are either usable but have no real niche, or are only capable of doing their specific task and fail at doing anything more than that. Pokemon from this rank have multiple crippling flaws that prevent them from being successful a majority of the time, and are often severely outclassed because of it.
Have fun!
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