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Pokemon Database Errors (Past Generations)
Post here errors in the Pokemon DB.
Non-exhaustive list of what this covers: * Errors in Pokemon data * Pokemon showing up in generations they aren't in * Errors in move data * Errors in learnsets (what moves a Pokemon learns) .. etc... go. MOVE/ITEM/ABILITY DESCRIPTIONS AND POKEMON MOVESETS ARE _NOT_ A PART OF THE POKEMON DATABASE. THEY ARE USER CREATED CONTENT, AND THEREFORE NEED TO BE EITHER IN THE WORKSHOPS OR IN THE SMALL CHANGES THREAD.
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http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/selfdestruct
http://www.smogon.com/rs/moves/selfdestruct Mewtwo and Snorlax are not listed as learning Selfdestruct. Actually a lot of Pokemon are missing, such as Gengar. This is an XD Tutor. I believe the other Pokemon (other than Mewtwo and Snorlax) learned it if they learned Explosion, but someone will have to verify that. http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/role_play http://www.smogon.com/rs/moves/role_play Mew learns Role Play (which people confused with Trick). It learns it as an XD move.
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Mar 23rd, 2008, 3:02:20 PM
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This is all ADV/DP
In Pokemon XD you can catch several Pokemon that have moves on them they don't learn otherwise. http://www.serebii.net/xd/pokemon-attacks.shtml That means they're illegal with egg and NYPC moves, though some of them come with egg moves (like, Scyther comes with Silver Wind and Morning Sun). Here's a list of Move Tutors in DP: http://www.serebii.net/xd/move-tutor.shtml The problem is, it's not listing the Pokemon that get stuff from it. I know that Selfdestruct is simply Wailord, Snorlax, Mewtwo + Exploders though. Pokemon Box gives you several Pokemon that come with a special move as well. Zigzagoon/Linoone is missing Extremespeed. Ralts/Kirlia/Gallade are missing Wish (Gardevoir has it) Swablu/Altaria are missing False Swipe Skitty/Delcatty are missing Pay Day Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu are missing Surf Last edited by Mekkah; Mar 23rd, 2008 at 3:14:38 PM. |
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Tropius was a hoax IIRC, along with Salamence (not Bagon) and Gardevoir (Not Ralts). Drowzee and Kangaskhan were the other Pokémon that got Wish/Another move at that Event, along with Farfetch'd, Lickitung, Chansey & Exeggcute like you said. Bagon actually wasn't at that Event, it was distributed with Absol, Ralts and Pikachu. All knowing Wish/Another move. Which were Iron Defense, Spite, Charm & Teeter Dance respectively. Each Pokémon could only have one of those moves, not both. While the others listed (Kanga-Exeggute) had both moves.
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All generations, entire Pikachu line should get Surf. RBY/GSC gets it through Pokemon Stadium (beat some challenge with Pikachu appearing in every one of your battles), RS through Pokemon Box (fill all your boxes completely, I think), DP through Pokemon Battle Revolution (upon completion).
Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom get Leech Seed in GSC via a NYPC event. I guess that means that technically they get it for RBY as well then via Tradeback. |
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Aug 20th, 2008, 1:12:54 AM
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My apologies if this thread is for discussing errors in the RS/DP pages only.
http://www.smogon.com/gs/moves/spikes Only Forretress and Qwilfish are listed as learning Spikes, but in actuality Cloyster and Delibird (the latter in a Nintendo event) learn this move as well. Last edited by SithLord; Aug 20th, 2008 at 1:15:04 AM. |
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May 4th, 2009, 2:19:31 PM
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http://www.smogon.com/rb/moves/gust
Isn't gust of the normal type in RB? On Pokemon Yellow, Pikachu is hit with normal effectiveness when attacked by Gust from Pidgey. It resists fly. So I'm pretty sure we can say Gust is a normal attack on Yellow. I am yet to test this on Red or Blue though. Edit: Confirmed on Red. Bulbasaur is hit with normal effectiveness from Pidgey's Gust. Oh and even Netbattle recognises it as Normal. Last edited by Lutra; May 4th, 2009 at 2:26:29 PM. |
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May 21st, 2009, 5:10:45 PM
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http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/follow_me
Magmortar, Electivire, and Mr. Mime are missing from this list. They get Follow Me from Pokemon XD.
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Jun 6th, 2009, 9:41:08 PM
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Ursaring's movepool page doesn't list Last Resort. However, it is a move tutor attack, and it also shows up in Shoddy battle's move list on the team builder.
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Jun 25th, 2009, 1:03:41 PM
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Hoppip GSC page lacks Splash, Synthesis and Tail Whip. And there still is that problem with the GSC Spikes page I outlined above.
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Jul 1st, 2009, 12:10:13 AM
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http://www.smogon.com/gs/moves/growth
Growth Eevee was a NYPC Pokemon, was it not? Well, the entire Eevee line is missing from this list. Also... http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/eevee/moves http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/espeon/moves http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/flareon/moves http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/jolteon/moves http://www.smogon.com/gs/pokemon/umbreon/moves Growth is missing from all of their learnsets. The Eevolutions' analyses all list Growth either as a main option (Espeon) or in other options so it's a tad unusual for Growth not to be in their learnsets. They're not overdue for an update, are they?
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Sep 3rd, 2009, 2:23:09 PM
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A very large number of GSC Pokemon are missing moves that they only learn in RBY, almost every TM that changed between generations, and Pokemon whose level up learnsets lost moves between the games. I understand that GSC moves are often not permitted in RBY, but have seen nothing to indicate that RBY only moves were banned from GSC. Its not a minor fix, but while there is such a large inaccuracy it almost seems worth putting a notice up somewhere to stop people from getting the wrong information.. That or extending the project RB Golbat started to check Smogon's learnsets to past generations to try and solve the problem.
On a related note, would it be worth having a separate table for "tradeback only" moves on the RB pages? edit: there should be a space between "A" and "PART" in the third to last line of the OP from this thread, don't kill me.
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Oct 4th, 2009, 3:09:11 AM
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Karate Chop
In the "Moves" database, "Karate Chop's" type is listed as "Fighting" for the R/B (first) generation. The actual typing is "Normal," as stated in the "Differences in R/B" section.
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Nov 6th, 2009, 9:24:34 PM
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Just a little something I noticed while rnging. You guys have the abilities of magnemite/ton/zone in the wrong order. I noticed this when I ended up getting a magnemite with sturdy ability rather than magnet pull. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/magnezone
You have magnet pull as ability 1 and Sturdy as ability 0 when in fact it should be the other way around. |
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Nov 12th, 2009, 4:46:20 PM
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i remember a glorious joke by mekkah involving an analysis about some weird swords dance pidgeot (may have been an april fool, or something). the problem is that swords dance is still there in rby pidgeot movepool xD
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Nov 25th, 2009, 5:04:08 PM
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Checking all DP corrections posted in this thread so that someone with the power to can find them all in one place without having to check if each is fixed yet, and when they have the time and inclination to fix them.
Gallade + Wish Ralts learns it, so.. its evo can. Pichu is missing Surf, but it can't be pal parked so should not be added. Shedinja + Baton Pass, Swords Dance, Slash It does get Baton Pass if you delay evolution until level 45 (its even in the analysis). It also gets Swords Dance and Slash by holding off evolution until level 25 and 31 respectively. Wormadam - Dig, Stealth Rock, Earthquake, Fissure, Flash Cannon, Gyro Ball, Harden, Iron Head, Metal Sound, Mirror Shot, Rock Blast, Rock Tomb, Sandstorm. Normal form was noted as having SR when it should not, checked movepool and found quite a few others. Wormadam seems to have acquired a lot of moves from one of the other forms somehow.. Zigzagoon - Roar, Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, Strength, Switcheroo, Was notes as not having Shadow Claw. Found others. Seems to have picked up moves from Linoone, which Ziggy can't get. Linoone + Pin Missile Ziggy gets it as a level up move. Magmortar + Follow Me Magmar gets it from XD. Jirachi + Draco Meteor Event move. Scizor + Vacuum Wave Scyther gets it Azurill - Aqua Jet, Amnesia, Belly Drum, Superpower, Future Sight, Supersonic Azuril has pretty different egg moves from Marill, it seems to have got a few mixed in that need removing. Slowking + Trick Pt tutor, Slowpoke gets it. Its other Pt tutor moves are fine. Lickilicky + Wish Tung gets it as an event move. Smeargle + Every Sketchable move It gets Sketch, so get all these moves. No real reason for them not to be listed. Additionally (from the event move guide/thread): Pikachu + Fly Pokewalker event. Plusle + Mud Sport Jap event. Poliwag, Poliwhirl, Poliwrath + Sweet Scent Poliwag gets it via an event. Politoed has it already. Minun + Water Sport Jap event. Arceus + Spacial Rend, Roar of Time, Shadow Force All from an event. Munchlax + Selfdestruct Pokewalker event. Lugia + Earth Power Pt tutor I can go back and find sources for all the events that are questionable if it is required.
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I'm unsure about this one, but is the only moves page that Smeargle is listed under as Sketch? I do not see any other moves with Smeargle listed as capable of learning it. I apologize if I'm sounding lazy, but I only checked Absorb, Attract, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Dragon Dance, Spore. Is it because that Smeargle technically never learns those moves by level-up, TM, or egg move or Smeargle can sketch any move?
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Good point, slightly surprised no one noticed/brought this up before actually. Smeargle's move pages for DP, RS, and GS need every move that exists (bar Chatter and Struggle) added. Unless moves learned through Sketch don't count for some reason, but this makes no competitive sense and stops people from finding it from the move page when looking for a Pokemon that learns that move.
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NYPC moves for GSC
Source, many (enough to be confident the lists agreed) checked against Bulbapedia and some against an apparently incomplete list on GFAQs. Thanks to Vader and Fuzznip for adding most of the evos to the list and helping get this into a useful format. Abra: Foresight Aerodactyl: Rock Throw Aipom: Mimic Alakazam: Foresight Ariados: Growth Azumarill: Dizzy Punch, Hydro Pump, Scary Face Bayleef: Petal Dance Bellossom: Leech Seed Bellsprout: Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Blastoise: Zap Cannon Blissey: Sweet Scent Bulbasaur: AncientPower Chansey: Sweet Scent Charizard: Crunch Charmander: Crunch Charmeleon: Crunch Chikorita: Petal Dance Chinchou: Light Screen Clefable: Petal Dance, Scary Face, Swift Clefairy: Petal Dance, Scary Face, Swift Cleffa: Petal Dance, Scary Face, Swift Crobat: Flail Croconaw: Submission Cubone: Fury Attack Cyndaquil: Double-Edge Delibird: Pay Day, Spikes Dewgong: Flail Dodrio: Low Kick Doduo: Low Kick Donphan: Absorb Dragonair: Hydro Pump Dragonite: Hydro Pump Dratini: Hydro Pump Drowzee: Amnesia Dunsparce: Fury Attack, Horn Drill Eevee: Growth Electabuzz: Dizzy Punch, Pursuit Electrode: Agility Elekid: Dizzy Punch, Pursuit Espeon: Growth Exeggcute: Sweet Scent Exeggutor: Sweet Scent Farfetch'd: Fury Cutter Fearow: SonicBoom Feraligatr: Submission Flareon: Growth Forretress: Substitute Furret: Dizzy Punch Geodude: Rapid Spin Gloom: Leech Seed Golbat: Flail Goldeen: Swords Dance Golduck: Petal Dance, Tri Attack Golem: Rapid Spin Granbull: Lovely Kiss Graveler: Rapid Spin Gyarados: Bubble, Reversal Heracross: Seismic Toss Hitmonchan: Rage Hitmonlee: Rage Hitmontop: Rage Hoothoot: Night Shade Hoppip: Agility Horsea: Haze Hypno: Amnesia Igglybuff: Mimic, Petal Dance, Scary Face Ivysaur: AncientPower Jigglypuff: Mimic, Petal Dance, Scary Face Jolteon: Growth Jumpluff: Agility Jynx: Metronome, Petal Dance Kabuto: Rock Throw Kabutops: Rock Throw Kadabra: Foresight Kangaskhan: Faint Attack Kingdra: Haze Kingler: Metal Claw Krabby: Metal Claw Lanturn: Light Screen Lapras: Bite, Future Sight Larvitar: Rage Ledian: Barrier Ledyba: Barrier Lickitung: Double Slap Machamp: False Swipe, Thrash Machoke: False Swipe, Thrash Machop: False Swipe, Thrash Magby: Faint Attack Magikarp: Bubble, Reversal Magmar: Faint Attack Magnemite: Agility Magneton: Agility Mantine: Gust Marill: Dizzy Punch, Hydro Pump, Scary Face Marowak: Fury Attack Meganium: Petal Dance Miltank: Mega Kick Misdreavus: Hypnosis Mr_Mime: Mind Reader Murkrow: Beat Up Natu: Safeguard Nidoking: Lovely Kiss, Morning Sun, Sweet Kiss Nidoqueen: Lovely Kiss, Moonlight, Sweet Kiss Nidoran-F: Lovely Kiss, Moonlight, Sweet Kiss Nidoran-M: Lovely Kiss, Morning Sun, Sweet Kiss Nidorina: Lovely Kiss, Moonlight, Sweet Kiss Nidorino: Lovely Kiss, Morning Sun, Sweet Kiss Noctowl: Night Shade Octillery: Amnesia, Mist Oddish: Leech Seed Omanyte: Rock Throw Omastar: Rock Throw Onix: Sharpen Paras: Synthesis Parasect: Synthesis Phanpy: Absorb Pichu: Dizzy Punch, Petal Dance, Scary Face, Sing Pikachu: Dizzy Punch, Petal Dance, Scary Face, Sing Piloswine: Whirlwind Pineco: Substitute Pinsir: Rock Throw Poliwag: Growth, Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Poliwhirl: Growth, Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Poliwrath: Growth, Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Ponyta: Low Kick Porygon2: Barrier Porygon: Barrier Psyduck: Petal Dance, Tri Attack Pupitar: Rage Quagsire: Scary Face Quilava: Double-Edge Qwilfish: Double-Edge Raichu: Dizzy Punch, Petal Dance, Scary Face, Sing Rapidash: Low Kick Remoraid: Amnesia, Mist Scizor: SonicBoom Scyther: SonicBoom Seadra: Haze Seaking: Swords Dance Seel: Flail Sentret: Dizzy Punch Skarmory: Fury Cutter Skiploom: Agility Smoochum: Metronome, Petal Dance Sneasel: Moonlight Snorlax: Lovely Kiss, Splash, Sweet Kiss Snubbull: Lovely Kiss Spearow: SonicBoom Spinarak: Growth Squirtle: Zap Cannon Stantler: Safeguard Starmie: Twister Staryu: Twister Steelix: Sharpen Sudowoodo: Substitute Sunflora: Splash Sunkern: Splash Swinub: Whirlwind Tangela: Synthesis Tauros: Quick Attack Teddiursa: Sweet Scent Tentacool: Confuse Ray Tentacruel: Confuse Ray Totodile: Submission Typhlosion: Double-Edge Tyranitar: Rage Tyrogue: Rage Umbreon: Growth Ursaring: Sweet Scent Vaporeon: Growth Venusaur: AncientPower Victreebel: Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Vileplume: Leech Seed Voltorb: Agility Wartortle: Zap Cannon Weepinbell: Lovely Kiss, Sweet Kiss Wigglytuff: Mimic, Petal Dance, Scary Face Wobbuffet: Mimic Wooper: Belly Drum Xatu: Safeguard Yanma: Steel Wing, Sweet Kiss Zubat: Flail And a couple of missing Crystal only Lv. up moves Cloyster: Spikes Magneton: Tri Attack
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The conversion2 SCMS entry should be moved to conversion_2, almost everywhere else disagrees with us and I checked ingame.
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Search terms changes:
Additions Rotom-H -> /dp/pokemon/rotom-h Rotom-C -> /dp/pokemon/rotom-c Rotom-F -> /dp/pokemon/rotom-f Rotom-S -> /dp/pokemon/rotom-s Rotom-W -> /dp/pokemon/rotom-w Shaymin-S -> /dp/pokemon/shaymin-s Adaptability currently redirects to /dp/abilities/adaptibility which is a 404, it should direct to /dp/abilities/adaptability. Ideally the items for all generations would be added as well. These are not a priority but when someone with the ability gets a chance it's something that could be improved.
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http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/mind_reader
Mind Reader has 5 PP.
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I can only link to the cached page right now so...
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Absol is not listed as having the move Superpower, yet it is advised in all of Absol's analyses, and in fact can be learned by Absol. Superpower does not show up here (http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/absol/moves) or here (http://www.smogon.com/dp/moves/superpower). Thanks for your time
Edit: P.S. (Evidence) Absol learns Superpower by a move tutor in Platinum, Heart Gold, or Soul Silver. Source: (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Absol), direct quote:
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